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இன்று இப்படி ஒரு article படிக்க நேர்ந்தது .நிறைய கேள்விகள்?
Article :
வணக்கம்
இன்று இப்படி ஒரு article படிக்க நேர்ந்தது .நிறைய கேள்விகள்?
Article :
சைவர்கள் அசைவம் சாப்பிடுபவர்களை விட 7 வருடம் அதிகமாக வாழ முடியும் என்று ஒரு ஆய்வு கூறுகிறது .
Example
யார் நன்றாக வேகமா வளர முடியும்? நிறைய புரதம் கொழுப்பு சாப்பிடும் குழந்தைகளா? அல்லது கொஞ்சம் carbohydrate கொஞ்சம் கொழுப்பு மற்றும் vegetables சாப்பிடும் குழந்தைகளா ?
பணக்கார நாட்டில் வசிக்கும் மக்கள் அனைத்தையுமே அதிகமாக சாப்பிடுவார்கள் for example புரதம் & கொழுப்பு .சீக்கிரமே over ஆக சாப்பிட்டு சீக்கிரம் organs ஐ over ஆக use பண்ணி சீக்கிரம் முதுமை அடைகிறார்கள் . carbohydrate , கொஞ்சம் protein vegetables என்று சாப்பிடும் குழந்தைகள் மெதுவாக வளர்ந்து மெதுவாக முதுமை அடைவார்கள் .Example: Japanese who eat more carbs ,vegetables and moderate protein look petite and have better longevity?
" People in affluent nations eat more of everything, but especially of protein and fat (necessary for body structures), which makes them age quickly, starting with growing faster and larger and then using up more of their inherited organic abilities in youth, leaving little to spare for late life. People eating less affluent diets don't grow as quickly or as large, and use less of their hormone production capacity in early life, leaving them more for later years.
Basically, many degenerative diseases are simply early onset of aging of tissues. Modern diets accelerate growth and development (e.g. premature menarche and puberty) which means they accelerate aging. So to find out what dietary components bring on degenerative diseases, ask, which dietary components accelerate growth and development? Will a child grow faster with more protein and fat, or lower protein and fat, higher carbohydrate? The smaller stature of Japanese people raised on traditional diets high in carbohydrates but low in animal products should provide a clue.
Since all human tissues consist of protein and fat, the answer should present itself. Simply, protein and fat are the limiting conditions for growth and development; eat more and you grow/age faster, eat less and you grow/age more slowly.
Commens:
Neander Selvan Every year Guinness book of records compiles worlds oldest person list. So far in history of that record not a single vegetarian has claimed that title.. Wy is it so?
Some of the worlds healthiest people live in Norway and Okinawa Japan. They aren't vegetarians. So from where did we get the idea that veg live 7 years longer than non vegetarian???
Packiarajah Tharmaraja பிரான்சில் 122வயசுவரை வாழ்த மடம் Jeanne Calment உலகில் அதிக வயதுடைய பெண்ணாக இருந்தார்..21/02/1875இல் பிறந்த அம்மையார் 4ஆகஸ்ட்1997இல் மறைந்தார்.. அவரின் உணவில் அதிகம் மாமிசங்களும் மீன்களுமே இடம்பிடித்தது..!
Vijayapriya Panneerselvam I feel to laugh and could not control my laugh, this article is good for laughter therapy. First of all who said Japneese consume less protein and fat, there carbs always combine with fat and protein, If you don't have enough protein and fat your hormones doesn't going to function normally, those who are vegetarians (sorry to mention the caste here) Brahmins, Jains, if you look into their diet they consume protein and fat in the form of Milk, Butter, Curd and Ghee. Without proteins and fats your brain will not function adequately. This kind of articles wasting our time only, Admins can post either you take veg diet or non veg diet our group is High fat group, please don't share any article which support carb intake.
Q: Vijayapriya Panneerselvam Laughing is good for the heart. So I am glad I made you laugh. The article says Japanese never ate "primal" diet but ate mostly sea food, plants , and some carbs. Yeah, keep telling the admins to remove all the articles, and discourage all inquisitive dieters! way to go
Q Vijayapriya Panneerselvam it was rather not necessary to bring in caste! pls come out of India, there are Americans, British, Christians yet vegans!! Many of them have survived until past their 90s. The article never supported carb intake. If at all it supported something, it was "plants,animals,carbs" in this order.
Vijayapriya Panneerselvam Miss Q: as per your article you mentioned Japaneese eat more carbs and less protien and fat, the ingredient in fish is ultimately protein and fat, they eat lot of pork, and most of them use lard as a cooking oil. When you quote something it should be acceptable by all. This group is all about high fat diet being it a vegetarian or non-vegetarian. And very well it mentioned in the group so many times, and for your kind information i have been travelled around the world and doing research on food habits and their relation to the disease, either you or it may be some one else whatever you quote here needs scientific proof, i used Indian example just for others to understand, i can quote many races, their food habits and their disease prevalance but many things are already discussed here and which is in a file section. I already mentioned discussing about carbs and ill effects of fat is waste of time, because we have posted so many research findings and cross sectional studies on high fat eaters. So this is my last comment in this thread. //The smaller stature of Japanese people raised on traditional diets high in carbohydrates but low in animal products should provide a clue.
Since all human tissues consist of protein and fat, the answer should present itself. Simply, protein and fat are the limiting conditions for growth and development; eat more and you grow/age faster, eat less and you grow/age more slowly. Please provide a supporting research findings and if you wish we can discuss further. Everytime when someone comes and uphold carb or criticise high fat diet definitely it is waste of time only discussing about that.
http://www.theguardian.com/.../19/japanese-diet-live-to-100
Neander Selvan Q so what are your questions? Or what is the point that you want to make?
Q: I am on a grain free , low carb eggetarian diet myself since few weeks.....But I am very much worried about my hormones since they are already messed up beyond correction..No never in my life I ate low fat, junk food...Its partly heriditary. too.... So I was reading on Paleo for women and their hormones. There are many authentic studies that confirm safe starches are *essential* for women's hormones and fertility...like sweet potato,yams.. I was surprised to find Okinawans ate tofu,soy,(definitely [prepared in a better way than the current tofu)whole grains. Thats why I shared it. My questions have been answered by you. Thanks.. But I want to clarify the point that "longest living people "never" ate primal / paleo diet.Am I right or wrong?
Neander Selvan //But I want to clarify the point that "longest living people "never" ate primal / paleo diet//-
ஆஸ்திரேலிய கிரிக்கட் அணி ஏன் இதுவரை ரஞ்சிகோப்பையை வென்றது இல்லை? என கேட்பது போல இருக்கிறது smile emoticon
நாகரிக மனிதர்களில் யார் நீண்டநாள் வாழ்கிறார்கள் என போட்டி வைத்தால் அதில் நாகரிக மனிதர்கள் தான் ஜெயிப்பார்கள் smile emoticon பழங்குடியினர் போட்டியிலேயே இல்லை என்கையில் அவர்கள் எப்படி ஜெயிப்பார்கள்? smile emoticon காடுகளுக்கு யார் சென்று கணக்கெடுத்தார்கள்? கின்னஸ் ரெகார்டில் பெயர் வரவேண்டுமெனில் பர்த் சர்ட்டிபிகேட் அவசியம். எந்த பழங்குடிமனிதன் பர்த் சர்ட்டிபிகேட்டுடன் இருக்கிறான்?
மேலும் காடுகளில் வாழும் பழங்குடி மனிதர்களுடன் ஆயுள் விசயத்தில் போட்டியிடவேண்டுமெனில் ஆயுளில் ஒரே ஒரு மாத்திரை, வாக்ஸின், மருத்துவர், சர்ஜரி, கண்கண்ணாடி....என எதுவுமே இல்லாமல் நாகரிக மனிதர்கள் போட்டியிட தயாராக வேண்டும். உலகசாதனை செய்த நீண்டாஅயுள் கொண்ட மனிதர்கள் ஆயுளில் எத்தனை மாத்திரை சபபிட்டிருப்பார்கள், வாக்ஸின் போட்டிருப்பார்கள், என கணக்கு இருக்கிறதா?
ஏனெனில் இது எதுவுமே இல்லாமல் ஆதிவாசிகள் காட்டில் 80 வருடம் வாழ்வதும், நகர்புறத்தில் இது எல்லாம் இருந்து 110 வருடம் வாழ்வதும் என இரண்டில் எது மேலானது?
- end of discussion - May 19,2015.
Example
யார் நன்றாக வேகமா வளர முடியும்? நிறைய புரதம் கொழுப்பு சாப்பிடும் குழந்தைகளா? அல்லது கொஞ்சம் carbohydrate கொஞ்சம் கொழுப்பு மற்றும் vegetables சாப்பிடும் குழந்தைகளா ?
பணக்கார நாட்டில் வசிக்கும் மக்கள் அனைத்தையுமே அதிகமாக சாப்பிடுவார்கள் for example புரதம் & கொழுப்பு .சீக்கிரமே over ஆக சாப்பிட்டு சீக்கிரம் organs ஐ over ஆக use பண்ணி சீக்கிரம் முதுமை அடைகிறார்கள் . carbohydrate , கொஞ்சம் protein vegetables என்று சாப்பிடும் குழந்தைகள் மெதுவாக வளர்ந்து மெதுவாக முதுமை அடைவார்கள் .Example: Japanese who eat more carbs ,vegetables and moderate protein look petite and have better longevity?
" People in affluent nations eat more of everything, but especially of protein and fat (necessary for body structures), which makes them age quickly, starting with growing faster and larger and then using up more of their inherited organic abilities in youth, leaving little to spare for late life. People eating less affluent diets don't grow as quickly or as large, and use less of their hormone production capacity in early life, leaving them more for later years.
Basically, many degenerative diseases are simply early onset of aging of tissues. Modern diets accelerate growth and development (e.g. premature menarche and puberty) which means they accelerate aging. So to find out what dietary components bring on degenerative diseases, ask, which dietary components accelerate growth and development? Will a child grow faster with more protein and fat, or lower protein and fat, higher carbohydrate? The smaller stature of Japanese people raised on traditional diets high in carbohydrates but low in animal products should provide a clue.
Since all human tissues consist of protein and fat, the answer should present itself. Simply, protein and fat are the limiting conditions for growth and development; eat more and you grow/age faster, eat less and you grow/age more slowly.
Commens:
Neander Selvan Every year Guinness book of records compiles worlds oldest person list. So far in history of that record not a single vegetarian has claimed that title.. Wy is it so?
Some of the worlds healthiest people live in Norway and Okinawa Japan. They aren't vegetarians. So from where did we get the idea that veg live 7 years longer than non vegetarian???
Packiarajah Tharmaraja பிரான்சில் 122வயசுவரை வாழ்த மடம் Jeanne Calment உலகில் அதிக வயதுடைய பெண்ணாக இருந்தார்..21/02/1875இல் பிறந்த அம்மையார் 4ஆகஸ்ட்1997இல் மறைந்தார்.. அவரின் உணவில் அதிகம் மாமிசங்களும் மீன்களுமே இடம்பிடித்தது..!
Vijayapriya Panneerselvam I feel to laugh and could not control my laugh, this article is good for laughter therapy. First of all who said Japneese consume less protein and fat, there carbs always combine with fat and protein, If you don't have enough protein and fat your hormones doesn't going to function normally, those who are vegetarians (sorry to mention the caste here) Brahmins, Jains, if you look into their diet they consume protein and fat in the form of Milk, Butter, Curd and Ghee. Without proteins and fats your brain will not function adequately. This kind of articles wasting our time only, Admins can post either you take veg diet or non veg diet our group is High fat group, please don't share any article which support carb intake.
Q: Vijayapriya Panneerselvam Laughing is good for the heart. So I am glad I made you laugh. The article says Japanese never ate "primal" diet but ate mostly sea food, plants , and some carbs. Yeah, keep telling the admins to remove all the articles, and discourage all inquisitive dieters! way to go
Q Vijayapriya Panneerselvam it was rather not necessary to bring in caste! pls come out of India, there are Americans, British, Christians yet vegans!! Many of them have survived until past their 90s. The article never supported carb intake. If at all it supported something, it was "plants,animals,carbs" in this order.
Vijayapriya Panneerselvam Miss Q: as per your article you mentioned Japaneese eat more carbs and less protien and fat, the ingredient in fish is ultimately protein and fat, they eat lot of pork, and most of them use lard as a cooking oil. When you quote something it should be acceptable by all. This group is all about high fat diet being it a vegetarian or non-vegetarian. And very well it mentioned in the group so many times, and for your kind information i have been travelled around the world and doing research on food habits and their relation to the disease, either you or it may be some one else whatever you quote here needs scientific proof, i used Indian example just for others to understand, i can quote many races, their food habits and their disease prevalance but many things are already discussed here and which is in a file section. I already mentioned discussing about carbs and ill effects of fat is waste of time, because we have posted so many research findings and cross sectional studies on high fat eaters. So this is my last comment in this thread. //The smaller stature of Japanese people raised on traditional diets high in carbohydrates but low in animal products should provide a clue.
Since all human tissues consist of protein and fat, the answer should present itself. Simply, protein and fat are the limiting conditions for growth and development; eat more and you grow/age faster, eat less and you grow/age more slowly. Please provide a supporting research findings and if you wish we can discuss further. Everytime when someone comes and uphold carb or criticise high fat diet definitely it is waste of time only discussing about that.
http://www.theguardian.com/.../19/japanese-diet-live-to-100
Neander Selvan Q so what are your questions? Or what is the point that you want to make?
Q: I am on a grain free , low carb eggetarian diet myself since few weeks.....But I am very much worried about my hormones since they are already messed up beyond correction..No never in my life I ate low fat, junk food...Its partly heriditary. too.... So I was reading on Paleo for women and their hormones. There are many authentic studies that confirm safe starches are *essential* for women's hormones and fertility...like sweet potato,yams.. I was surprised to find Okinawans ate tofu,soy,(definitely [prepared in a better way than the current tofu)whole grains. Thats why I shared it. My questions have been answered by you. Thanks.. But I want to clarify the point that "longest living people "never" ate primal / paleo diet.Am I right or wrong?
Neander Selvan //But I want to clarify the point that "longest living people "never" ate primal / paleo diet//-
ஆஸ்திரேலிய கிரிக்கட் அணி ஏன் இதுவரை ரஞ்சிகோப்பையை வென்றது இல்லை? என கேட்பது போல இருக்கிறது smile emoticon
நாகரிக மனிதர்களில் யார் நீண்டநாள் வாழ்கிறார்கள் என போட்டி வைத்தால் அதில் நாகரிக மனிதர்கள் தான் ஜெயிப்பார்கள் smile emoticon பழங்குடியினர் போட்டியிலேயே இல்லை என்கையில் அவர்கள் எப்படி ஜெயிப்பார்கள்? smile emoticon காடுகளுக்கு யார் சென்று கணக்கெடுத்தார்கள்? கின்னஸ் ரெகார்டில் பெயர் வரவேண்டுமெனில் பர்த் சர்ட்டிபிகேட் அவசியம். எந்த பழங்குடிமனிதன் பர்த் சர்ட்டிபிகேட்டுடன் இருக்கிறான்?
மேலும் காடுகளில் வாழும் பழங்குடி மனிதர்களுடன் ஆயுள் விசயத்தில் போட்டியிடவேண்டுமெனில் ஆயுளில் ஒரே ஒரு மாத்திரை, வாக்ஸின், மருத்துவர், சர்ஜரி, கண்கண்ணாடி....என எதுவுமே இல்லாமல் நாகரிக மனிதர்கள் போட்டியிட தயாராக வேண்டும். உலகசாதனை செய்த நீண்டாஅயுள் கொண்ட மனிதர்கள் ஆயுளில் எத்தனை மாத்திரை சபபிட்டிருப்பார்கள், வாக்ஸின் போட்டிருப்பார்கள், என கணக்கு இருக்கிறதா?
ஏனெனில் இது எதுவுமே இல்லாமல் ஆதிவாசிகள் காட்டில் 80 வருடம் வாழ்வதும், நகர்புறத்தில் இது எல்லாம் இருந்து 110 வருடம் வாழ்வதும் என இரண்டில் எது மேலானது?
- end of discussion - May 19,2015.
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